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Royal Commission 2: Goodbye Grandfathering, Hello Fee-For-Service

Published 27/04/2018, 01:48 pm
Updated 09/07/2023, 08:32 pm

Originally published by Cuffelinks

This is part two of a three-part series. You can read part one here.

“My personal opinion is I can’t wait for the day we are fully fee-for-service for insurance and super.” Michael Wright, Westpac Banking Corporation (AX:WBC) Head of Advice, to Royal Commission, 20 April 2018

“My preference would be for fee arrangements but the arrangements that exist between the clients and their advisers are the arrangements that exist between the clients and the advisers.”

Anthony ‘Jack’ Regan, AMP Ltd (AX:AMP) Group Executive, Advice, to Royal Commission, 17 April 2018

These preferences expressed by two heads of advice at leading financial institutions seem to indicate an industry that wishes to move away from commissions to a fee-for-service model.

Don’t believe it will happen voluntarily. All the majors lobbied hard for grandfathering of commissions, and it remains a major source of revenue to this day, including 70% of advice revenue at AMP.

Grandfathering is receiving a lot of attention at the Royal Commission, and was a highly debated subject in the Future of Financial Advice (FOFA) regulations that came into effect on 1 July 2013. It received heavy scrutiny when Jack Regan of AMP was in the witness box, and this article examines his evidence in detail to explain the issue.

What is grandfathering under FOFA?

Prior to FOFA, a primary source of ‘conflicted advice’ was the payment by product providers of commissions to financial advisers, giving an incentive to recommend particular products to clients. The conflict is obvious. If a platform provider or fund manager pays an adviser a commission, the adviser may be influenced not to recommend the product best suited for a client, and therefore not act in the client’s best interests.

The grandfathering provisions in FOFA are complex, but generally, they preserved existing contractual rights to receive product commissions after 1 July 2013. The rate of commission could not be increased as that represented a new arrangement and would become ‘conflicted remuneration’. Commissions on financial products acquired by clients after 1 July 2013 were banned. The major banks and AMP fought for grandfathering as they all owned financial advice businesses that relied on receiving commissions from product providers. Although five years have elapsed since the date of the ban, significant chunks of advice business still receive commissions, and their retention is vital to the economics of many advice businesses, including the value of an advice book if it is transferred to another adviser.

FOFA also required financial advisers to ask customers to ‘opt-in’ every two years if they wished to receive ongoing advice, and this was also strongly resisted by the industry. Commission arrangements that are grandfathered are exempt from this requirement, and the commission does not need to be revealed to the client. These are additional benefits of hanging onto an old book of business.

If commissions were bad for conflicted advice, why did the legislation grandfather them? If advisers are acting in the best interest of clients, why do they retain commissions to this day? Will the Commission recommend removing grandfathering? What impact will this have on viability of financial advice groups?

What did the Commission learn about grandfathering?

Michael Hodge (MH), Counsel Assisting the Commission, interrogated Jack Regan (JR) on the first and second day of the Round 2 interviews. The following transcript also gives an insight into how the Commission extracts embarrassing admissions from executives, with as much revealed by the non-answers as the answers.

MH: I want to understand AMP’s attitude to grandfathering commissions. It is possible, isn’t it, for an AMP authorised representative or financial planner to rebate to the client the entire amount of a commission received?

JR: Yes, they can.

MH: And one possible arrangement that some financial planners would or have entered into with clients is that they rebate the entire amount of the commission, and then charge a separate ongoing advice fee for whatever the ongoing advice is that they’re providing?

JR: Yes.

MH: You’re familiar with that type of arrangement?

JR: Yes, I’ve read of it, yes, yes.

MH: Is that not an arrangement that’s encouraged within AMP?

JR: I couldn’t comment, to be honest, Mr Hodge.

MH: Well, you are the group executive for the advice business?

JR: Mmm.

MH: You are ultimately responsible, I assume, for the 2800 planners that sit within the AMP network of planners?

JR: Mmm.

MH: Is it really your position that you cannot comment on AMP’s attitude as to the idea of dialling down commissions?

JR: So all I was getting at was that you – I’m not sure of what direction has been given to our advisers. I’m simply not close enough to the detail in that regard.

MH: If we continue through with the nature of this arrangement that I’m talking about, if you dial down the entire commission, or possibly by changing it with the product issuer or alternatively by rebating the entire commission to the client, and then you charge the client an ongoing service fee, that means that all of the legislative arrangements under FOFA apply to that ongoing service fee. You agree?

JR: Yes.

MH: If the only fee that a planner is charging to a client is an ongoing fee, then they need to provide a fee disclosure statement to the client?

JR: That’s correct.

MH: For the entire amount they are charging to the client?

JR: That’s correct.

MH: Similarly they need to provide opt-in notices to the client?

JR: That’s correct.

MH: And the client needs to opt in?

JR: That’s correct.

MH: Does AMP, in respect of its advice business of which you are the head, have an attitude as to whether it will be appropriate for financial planners to not charge or take commissions and to, instead, only charge fees for advice, service fees for advice?

JR: So we leave that at the contract level of the negotiated level with the client and the adviser, is my understanding of it.

MH: So AMP has no view as to whether its planners should or should not cease retaining commissions and only charge for services provided?

JR: I haven’t seen any specific communications in that regard. If you’re ‑ ‑ ‑

MH: No, no, Mr Regan, you’re the group executive in charge of advice?

JR: Mmm.

MH: Ultimately, the decision must be yours made in consultation with the GLT, I assume. You’re responsible for it. You might discuss it with the GLT. Do you agree? [GLT is Group Leadership Team].

JR: I haven’t had discussions in that regard with the GLT.

MH: Have you turned your mind at all to the question of whether it is appropriate for planners to continue to take commissions in respect of their clients?

JR: My preference would be for fee arrangements but the arrangements that exist between the clients and their advisers are the arrangements that exist between the clients and the advisers.

MH: Is there anything that would stop AMP from adopting that as a position, an official position that its planners should not be taking commissions from products and should only be receiving fees for service?

JR: So it’s able to be done, if that’s the question?

MH: Yes?

JR: Yes, we could adopt that position, yes.

MH: And why don’t you?

JR: I will be honest and say, Mr Hodge, I haven’t turned my mind to it. The arrangements that we have in place are to allow the planners to negotiate their own arrangements with their clients, and we’re working through the overall grandfathering period as things currently stand.

MH: I’m sorry, when you say “working through the overall grandfathering period” what does that mean?

JR: So progressively the commission is dropping away and the fees are taking over. So as clients, for example, negotiated into new arrangements, the commissions fall away, as we’ve noted, or alternatively, customers complete their arrangements, new customers come on, but as you could tell from that table, the proportion of fees as a function of the – the total, if you accept the percentage I gave you before, if you go back to the – to the start of the period, you know, it’s gone from something like 10%, being fees to something like 40% being fees.

MH: I think you said 30% yesterday?

JR: Yes, 30 or 40%, yes. I’m approximating for the sake of the discussion but the point I’m making is that the commissions are phasing out over time which, as I understand it, was the approach that was a function of FOFA.

MH: And that’s over a period of, what, almost five years?

JR: Yes.

MH: Does AMP have any estimate as to how long it will take for commissions to phase out entirely?

JR: I don’t have that estimate, Mr Hodge.

MH: Do you, as the head of advice – I’m sorry, as the group executive in charge of advice, have a view about whether the taking or continued taking of commissions is compatible with the purported professionalisation of financial planners?

JR: Well, as I said before, my preference would be for fee arrangements expressly.

MH: And is that because you don’t think that it is compatible with the idea of financial planners being a profession, that they continue to receive commissions?

JR: I think fees are much more consistent with a professional environment, yes.

What will the Commission conclude from such exchanges?

Commissioner Kenneth Hayne is grappling with the conflict between commissions and best interest duty, and between providing products and advice under the same corporate structure. AMP would prefer to move to a fee-for-service model, but cannot let go of commissions because they make too much money from them. AMP does not know how long the commissions will last, although they could remove them immediately. The Commission’s decision will have a profound impact.

Check in on Monday for the final part in this series.

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